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they have to really assert a move toward deficit reduction? >> you know, in my mind they actually missed the best chance they had, which was the expiration of the bush tax cuts, which was really the best chance for both sides. if there was ever a point where a grand bargain was possible, it would have been i think the republicans accepting rolling back more of that tax cut than we did in return for acquiring democrats to deal with the very real long-term challenge of entitlements. we did not take advantage of that. we had a minimalist deal that confirms 82% of bush tax cuts, possibly the worst possible outcome and no spending cuts, probably the worst possible outcome in the long term from a deficit perspective. now i think the history is this is not a powerful mechanism. in the end it's a doomsday device you cannot use. you go back to the midninety with bill clinton and the republican congress, look at 2011. i think in the end they will decide they cannot use this measure and they seem to be heading that way this week in their house republican retreat. >> ian bremer is with us. he's the
you the deficit. but the actual debt payment, are less than 90 cents on the dollar that we take in. so even if the president as he should should pays our debts, that leaves him with 90 cents on every dollar that comes in to fund the other priorities of government and he wants to threaten not to pay that debt service. i think that's irresponsible of the president to be suggesting default on the debt. we ought to be talking about a bipartisan solution to the spending problem that got us here in the first place. >> i have heard talk in the republican conference about a one or two or three month extension on the debt ceiling. and on a continuing resolution for the budget to run the government. is that one to three month solution not still on the table? >> well, larry, we're proposing a number of different solution, both short term and long term. frankly, president obama needs to start rolling up his sleeves and focusing on both instead of sitting over in the white house and kind of throwing out all the threats to everybody across the country and running around campaigning as if he's still
vendcated his approach to deficit reduction in the recently passed election. he said he was willing to negotiate over ways to cut the deficit in the future but he accused house republicans of playing a hostage game with debt limit in the debt ceiling very soon and said he will not participate. >> they will not collect a ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the kru united states of america is not a bargaining chip and they better choose quickly because time is running short. >> john boehner put o out a statement right after the news conference trying to stay out of box the president put them in. he said, the house will doity job and pass responsible legislation that droenls spending, meets our nation's obligations and keeps the government running. the question will be, can he move his caucus in a place to where he is reach an agreement with the president that raises the debt limit without violating the president's pledge. he says he will only go for a balanced
the deficit and immigration and gun safety and i don't think he's going to be very frustrated if washington is completely divorced from the reality in the country so he's going to seek common ground. he's going to find every way to compromise but he's going to be pretty clear and we're also going to bring the american people more into the debate than the first term. >> what's the big difference in the president obama that took the oath four years ago and tomorrow. >> there's atmospheric differences. we had an economy collapsing all around us and he was a first term president and still putting together his team and agenda and cabinet and still the economy is too weak but recovering and the question is right now building on that as opposed to simply trying to stem the bleeding. big difference and i think the experience of the office as you know. you know, that helps a lot and so i think he does have even more sure-footedness in his approach. >> it can become a bit of a burden. historians write about the second term curse and i know you and your team spent a lot of time studying how to avoid t
, ironically, the whole fiasco actually added to the deficit. >> republicans basically had no choice but to retreat from their hard line position, negotiating with the american people. if the country defaulted, they would be responsible for a global economic collapse. the new plan for a three-month increase guarantees another debate in the next few months. okay, let's have it. but it also shows republicans never had any intention on carrying out their threats. get your cell phones out. want to know what you think tonight. tonight's question, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? text a for yes. text b to no to 266239. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me tonight, congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz of florida, chair woman of the dnc. good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. good to be here. >> is this a big victory of sorts or is this a trap as some democrats have labeled it? >> well, you know, it's a little bit of both because while it is good to hear that the republicans are recognizing that we cannot play
s. >> while i'm willing to find middle ground to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate. not paying its bills is irresponsible. it's absurd. republicans in congress have two choices here. they can act responsibly and pay america's bills or they can act irresponsibly and put america through another economic crisis. but they will not collect or ransom in exchange for not crashing the america economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. >> you know, it looks like republicans are up against another wall. but they're not going to be able to get -- they're not going to be able to get, quite frankly, some things they really want, if they're serious, are important. spending issues. but this is -- he's got them again. >> here's the problem with the republican party being owned by extremists on issues not related to the debt. let me tell you something, the president of the united states, it's laughable that he would talk about republicans not being res
and broadening opportunity for the middle class is shrinking our deficits in a balanced and responsible way. and for nearly two years now, i've been fighting for such a plan. one that would reduce our deficits by $4 trillion over the next decade. which would stabilize our debt, and our deficit in a sustainable way for the next decade. that would be enough not only to stop the growth of our debt relative to the size of our economy, but it would make it manageable. so it doesn't crowd out the investments we need to make in people and education and job training and science and medical research, all the things that help us grow. step by step, we've made progress towards that goal. over the past two years i've signed into law about $1.4 trillion in spending cuts. two weeks ago i signed into law more than $600 billion in new revenue. by making sure the wealthiest americans begin to pay their fair share. when you add the money that we'll save in interest payments on the debt, all together that adds up to a total of about $2.5 trillion in deficit reduction over the past two years. not counting the
, gives the government the ability to pay its existing bills. it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family which is trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effective way to improve your credit rating. >> the metaphors, jim, whether it's a family not paying the credit card bills, the president saying it's like dining and dashing at a restaurant, the only thing is we've got two weeks of respite and then we're off to the races again. >> after the civil war, there was tremendous partisanship in this country. a tumultuous time. the level of bipartisanship. there's such hatred that you can't get in a room. it never seems like obama gets in the room. biden got in the room beforehand. but look, everybody hates each other down there. it's exactly the opposite of what you would expect from a respected nation. it makes us look mickey mouse. i don't blame fitch. look, we have to pay bills, the constitution says it, but everybody doesn't seem
'd never use the debt ceiling to negotiate. there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the left. >> he doesn't get attack. the questions i want asked are never asked of him anywhere. >> he should come on "squawk." >> that's not going to happen. >> i'll get out. is that possible? >> no. >> i had a story but we'll talk about that one later. >> what's your story? >> we'll do it later in the broadcast. >> about nerds? >> what else would it be about? you want me to talk to here? i'm going to talk to here. coming up this morning's top stories, plus we're going to hop behind the wheel with nissan ceo carlos ghosn at the detroit auto show. first check this out
problems of this country. the deficits that are mounting, but no one is talking about the cost of amnesty. when it was considered by congress in 2007 the cost of have been over two and a half trillion dollars because all those illegal aliens become eligible for food stamps, medicaid or medicare, social security, unemployment insurance it here and all that, that was pre obamacare, so now i will be even more. this is the last time we should be talking about amnesty because we cannot afford it. the taxpayers in the pain for the demint to the benefits for the illegal aliens or legalized eligible for welfare benefits. that is the hidden element. the other thing it is not being talked about will be in this going to slow this down is unemployment. 78 percent unemployment. the people underemployed. why in the world would we choose now to give legal status to 11 million illegal aliens so they can more effectively compete against unemployed americans. gerri: marshall, a smack in the eye of organized labor? because here you write a lot to bring in all these new workers. the very people that obama re
invests to see our economy grow. the one silver bullet in deficit reduction is economic growth. we need to get out of this circle we're in right now and start talking about growth. how we start moving the economy forward because we'll never get out of the hole otherwise. melissa: stephen, that is a great point. do you move the economy forward and grow by raising taxes, do you think. >> president obama at one point believed we do not. he argued in twine and 2010 you would hurt economic growth if you raised taxes at time the economy was struggling. that is what he argued at time. melissa: what do you think, steven. raising taxes grows the economy or -- >> no, it does not grow the economy. we have to be serious how much the president contributed to overall debt picture. $6 trillion since he came to office. nearly $20,000 per united states citizen has been added since president obama came into office. so just silly to argue he hasn't contributed. melissa: blame game gets us nowhere because everybody contributed to it. god it is a mess and we have to fix it. when you hear people like nancy p
in an administration, did any of the deficit deals that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can borrow. taxes aren't the only strains what government can spend. the parliament and congress has to be able to control the borrowing level. that's government 101. >> is zit in g-- dis in geingeny we've already been to the restaurant and trying to stiff the bill? it wasn't the $800 stimulus or any of the things the president's done, it's congress? >> first, you're raising debt limits to cover future spending. fact one is the money hasn't been spent yet. that's not true. >> it's sort of disassembling. >> that's a good word for it. the second fact is congress hasn't approved the mone
, they are about half way there in deficit reduction, and that modest changes to health care, entitlement spending could accompany the closing the tax loopholes. a marker on a future negotiation. house speaker bane says in response that the house does it job and passes responsible legislation that controls spending, meets our nation's obligations, and keeps the government running. we will insist that the democratic majority in washington do the same. republicans on thursday will have their annual conference retreat in williamsburg, virginia to discuss their debt ceiling strategy moving forward. back to you. >> and speaking of responsible bookkeeping as the president was, you're just getting word the president's budget won't be delivered by the february 4th deadline; is that right? >> yes. a spokesman for the house budget committee confirms the white house communicated to them they will not get their budget to the white house on time. this is a deadline they met in the past, although, it's not like the white house will not come out with their budget. releasing the budget. thanks so much. >> from wa
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to a republican president that then put everything on the credit cards, that blew up the debt and the deficit. and then we ended up with a near depression, a recession, and so clearly of course some spending was going to go up, but actually it's gone up slower in the obama administration than it did in either bush or the reagan administration. david: hold on a second congresswoman. i have to argue with that point. because we just put up the numbers. as i said the last three years of bush it went from 9 trillion to 10 trillion. the first three years of president obama it went from 10 trillion to 16 trillion. that's a huge increase. >> well, but this is not because of spending -- this is because the government has been spending to -- more people are on programs because of the unemployment etc., and so we have had a problem. i was on the simpson bowles commission. i actually introduced my own plan that did more deficit reduction, including, for example, creating a public option in healthcare that would save 104 billion dollars over ten years. so there are ways that we can do it, but to say that
in spending in exchange for raising the borrowing limit. he says trimming the budget deficit should be a different discussion. >> to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. >> house speaker john boehner responded to this by saying the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. you can see the battle lines there very clearly. are you in hawaii or headed there? think twice. beware of getting in the water. check out this video. that's right, sharks near oahu's yokohama beach, two sharks were spotted swimming very, very dangerously close to the shore. i hope that guy's feet are not in the water. >> wow, that is super shallow. >> if steve stockman was serious he would have mentioned secession. secession is the line -- >> that's so old. >> i'm just saying. >> don't open any can of worms when i need to go to a break. >>> polls are showing more americans support tougher gun control laws. is there any common ground in washington, d.c.? we'll talk with
and therefore add to future budget deficits. this letter from the treasury secretary intended to put more political and public pressure on congress to do something on the debt ceiling. so we're seeing the administration across the board acting in a very conservative way today. >> thank you very much. >>> up next, he spent millions of his own money warning about dangers of socialism. now the next crisis in washington. tom peterffy will join me next. ♪ [ cows moo ] [ sizzling ] more rain... [ thunder rumbles ] ♪ [ male announcer ] when the world moves... futures move first. learn futures from experienced pros with dedicated chats and daily live webinars. and trade with papermoney to test-drive the market. ♪ all on thinkorswim. from td ameritrade. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesse
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to a balanced budget. consider we have deficits of a trillion dollars plus. that is not an easy task even for those of us at the cato institute you want a dramatically smaller federal government. it does not mean default. the federal government is collecting ten times as much revenue as needed to pay interest on the debt. gerri: to that point, legislation that would force the treasury to prioritize spending in deciding what bills to pay. the treasury is getting money in every single day. tax dollars don't just come in on april 15th. they come in all the time. >> and the president will be forced to do what you and i and every other american have to do and that is prioritize expenses. if we would not default, prioritize that which must be paid first and then make tough oices as to what is necessary and proper for our government to be spending. that is what we should be doing every day and is, quite frankly, why this president has failed to lead because he just does not believe it. he believes there is no end, and at the end of his term will be somebody else's problem. gerri: it will. >> but
immigration reform, reducing the deficit in a balanced way. the american people voted for both parties to work together on those issues. that's certainly something the president is seeking to do. >> so, ben, i'm curious, preparations for monday, are they all done at this point and when do you start planning for this? i'm guessing you have to do it even before the election is done, right? >> that's true, there are many officials, particularly at those security officials and congressional officials who put the events on the mall together, prepare the security, the logistics, they've been working for over a year, regardless of who's going to be the next president. in terms of this committee that's put together the program, that's taken a couple of months to put together. it's not all done yet, we're pretty much ready to go. but two more days of work and we'll be there. >> i'm sure it will all be ready to go by monday. ben, i have to ask you. what is going on behind you and good on you for still talking over that? >> well, i think you can hear the performers appealing to all demographics. this one
is willing to talk about deficit reduction, perhaps modest reduction to healthcare spending. as long as it comes with curbing loopholes and tax reductions for wealthier individuals. congress should just do it. back to you. connell: let's bring in dylan glenn. former advisor to george w bush. rich said that republicans have reasons for not having this meeting today. the president is standing back and think i am not negotiating on this and the republicans are all over the map. >> i do not think that this is a big deal. i do not see that as a big issue. what is coming out of this weekend retreat is far more important. connell: i would like to be a fly on the wall for that. >> also what is important is to remember how we got here. he has run trillion dollar deficits for the past four years of his administration. you have to pass a budget in the united states senate. he will be doing his sort of constitution getting a budget up to the congress. this is a challenge. we have to have a clear look at how we can reduce spending in this country. connell: whenever the limit is actually reached a
at the part that says credible meaningful deficit reduction has to be part of this in order to keep the aaa credit score. house majority leader eric cantor responded to that with a statement saying, it's time for president obama to stop putting our credit rating at risk and acknowledge we need a credible deficit reduction plan attached to any increase in the debt limit. from the white house we heard from president obama yesterday at a news conference. he says that he is not discussing any negotiations in the debt ceiling. that if congress's responsibility to essentially allow him to pay for the bills that congress has already rang up. and from here he says he will discuss deficit reduction, perhaps, modest changes to health care spending, so long as it is included with cushing or cutting loopholes in the tax system but that is something he says is an entirely separate debate. here we are having debate where one of the sides wants a debate and the other is trying to figure out their opening offer. that happens over the next few days. back to you. lori: the tick-tock, rich, grinding along on
consistent with a get real strategy? >> the biggest deficit the country has is a leadership deficit and the truth is the wings of both parties don't represent america. we have a republic not representative to the public. that's one of the reasons i'm one of the national co-founders of no labels to get that over rhetoric. we do need more leadership over the president and have a plan and push forward with regard to a grand bargain strategy because we desperately need one. we need one in 2013. we may not have until 2015. i'm confident we don't have till 2017. >> coming off the fiscal cliff negotiations and the whole experience with that, is that realistic at all in 2013? >> i think it is realistic if you do three things, one, the president has to demonstrate much more leadership. he's the only one elected by the people. he's the chief executive officer. he's got the bully pulpit. secondly, we need to engage the american people with the facts, the truth, with the tough choices in a way forward. i've done it all over the country, all 50 states. they're way ahead of the politicians. they
news conference this week where he said if -- if this debate is just about reducing the fiscal deficit, he's on board and let's get it done, but he suspects that there are a lot of conservative republicans out there for whom this debate is about the bigger picture of the role the federal government plays in americans' lives, and he said that's not a debate he wants to have. he doesn't want to be cutting entitlement programs just because conservatives want to reduce the role of government in americans' lives. is it possible we're having two simultaneous debates at once here? >> well, he's got to reconcile the differences. almost like saying i know i'm overweight but don't ask me to go on a diet. i mean, there's got to be efficiencies found in the federal government. the fact that we're cutting spending doesn't mean that we don't continue to provide services to people. >> but it will take date where the spending cuts i made is the point he's making. you can talk about military cuts which is what he would i think be going after as opposed to the entitlement cuts that the republicans want
: california finally has a surplus. in november he said he had a deficit of $2 billion. he stands by that number but says -- >> it is roughly in balance. >> the difference in numbers is small and that the government's plan shows discipline. >> he should be commended for the plan. >> paying down debt and strengthsenning education are the right -- strengthening education are the right choices for california. >> reporter: he says another area of agreement is how quickly the governor's budget's numbers could fly. >> the biggest risk could come next month and that is from washington, d.c. in what the government chooses to do or not to do. >> reporter: if washington fails to act on the debt ceiling the national economy could -- [no audio] >> reporter: because of the potential risks to our state budget that is one reason they say they want to create that $1 billion reserve and where the budget stands, that will be better known in may when we will know if the surplus has grown. ken pritchett, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 49er fans are looking forward to a huge game this weekend. if they win
on the movie theater. >> it is nice but nothing compared to the 45.$8 million deficit this city is running. when they filed for bankruptcy they had wanted to $50,000 in the citibank account. john: the politician said we did not see it coming. they owed 46 millionith panetta thousand of the bank? >> they're required to put 1.8 million dollars per month into koppers. john: they tried to raise money through fees like expensive parking tickets. >> i paid $500. >> but he was going 90 in the school's own. john: with that does not cover the pension obligations. >> not sandy know, vallejo, a compton, a stockton or any of their city. they are failing. john: i hear there is more civil society? volunteers working in the animal shelter, park maintenance, a neighborhood watch is starting to blossom? >> bay plant their city back. they take it themselves. so the private solution is always better. john: that is where you go when the government spends of the many. next we take this problem and see what it does to the whole state. it is not pretty and. john: california is paradise for government workers. he
its existing bills. it doesn't create new deficits, it doesn't create new spending. so not raising the debt ceiling is sort of like a family trying to improve its credit rating saying, i know how we can save money, we won't pay our credit card bills. not the most effect of way to improve your credit rating. >> ben bernanke says the u.s. economy appears to be willing to raise the debt ceiling. it's downplaying fierce that this could lead to higher inflation. >>. >> what do you think? >> well, i think, you know, what we've seen in the beginning of the year, like the solution of the fiscal cliff for the fist time in the more global renegotiation, what bernanke know and the government is they don't want the economy to be in another recession. probably it's going to be a slow process, but the final aim is there and everybody knows where we need to go. >> all right. let's remind you what's on today's show. we take a look out at the auto show. 5:30 eastern. spain is set to tap the bond market today. it's going to tell 12 and 18-month t bills. analysis is due in about 30 minutes' time. >>>
in government spending which they want. he said trimming the budget deficit should be a different discussion separate from the debt ceiling. >> raising the debt ceiling does not authorize us to spend more. all it does is say that america will pay its bills, and we are not a deadbeat nation. >> clearly house speaker john boehner thinks differently. he responded by saying, quote, the american people do not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. >>> these pens are designed to be used only by one person, but an investigation discovered that many of them were used on multiple people. >>> are you in hawaii or going there anytime soon? surfers, beware. check out this video. it's a real-life jauss. two sharks were swimming dangerously close to the show. can you believe it? look at that. you could wade in and be bitten, eaten. last year there were a total of 11 shark attacks in hawaii. >> that's what i call dangerously close. >> oh, my goodness. >> so some people in the southeast waking up to the dual danger of flooding and ice. alexandra steele in the
, but we should find out within days. do you think there is a deficit of coverage there? >> no, i think there is a surfeit of coverage. there is, it has been on the front page every single day that this working group has been around. it's on television all the time. there's no bigger issue in america right now. >> i disagree respectfully because when you look at what's getting attention. david gregory bringing an empty clip on "meet the press." alex jones on to cnn and newspapers publishing the addresses of gun owners in the front page. so, that's what's getting attention. i read "the post" and read those stories and they're all around in the press, but ne'er not getting attention because it's the circus on the television. >> those stories are part of the larger story. >> true. >> they should be the larger story. >> it raises the attention of the larger issue, as well. >> we're going to come back to some of those very incidents that you mentioned, robert. let me come back to keli on this issue. went basically hay wire over vice president biden saying the possibility of executive orders.
high. sweeping change to gun control. immigration reform. taking on climate change. cutting the deficit. and oh, yeah, lowering unemployment. make no mistake about it. it's ambitious. but the president is entering his second term with a job approval among the highest since the early months of his presidency. his favorability rating has jumped nine point ins the last three months. at the very same time, the other side is fractured. destroying themselves. they're even threatening impeachment over the issue. we want all tools available to use including impeachment. >> could that build up to make a case for possible impeachment. >> all options should be on the table, undoubtly. >> and if that weren't enough, they're back. that's right, the birther brigade is stronger than ever. 64% of americans think president obama is hiding important information about his early life. 64%. no wonder the gop is going off the deep end. and no wonder the president is looking better than ever joining me now, jonathan kapart. thanks for coming on the show tonight. >> 64% is questioned about the president's earl
important thing he could do is tax reform and deficit control. if he could put those two things together, that'd be bigger than health care. >> steve: you know what? if he were to work with the republicans talking reform-- >> i think that's a lock for next year. >> steve: well, he wants to do something about it. some republicans want to do something about it, remember last time with health care, the republicans had a bunch of ideas and the democrats shut them out completely. maybe this time bipartisan. >> brian: that's not the harry reid i know. >> alisyn: let's get to other stories in the headlines, late last noos night, two drones strikes, at least three of the bodies were burned beyond recognition. the death toll could rise in the hostage crisis at a gas plant in algeria. many were killed including one american. two americans are still missing and the crisis ended yesterday when the algerian army attacked the plant killing two militants. president obama said this is attack is another reminder of the threat posed by al-qaeda and other violent extremist groups in north africa. and the p
, negotiating with unions has made big headlines in the past year's budget deficit exploding, as you know, but one story in the "wall street journal" really caught my attention because the strong-arm tactics being used. just one example, the police union in california began a harassment campaign against the city manager. after he announced the city may have to lay off 16% of the municipal workforce. the union bought the house next door to him to make his life miserable and they invested in billboards welcoming visitors famous as the second most dangerous city in california and it put his phone number at the bottom. keep in mind this is if you ended up going bankrupt because of unsustainable costs. this is all too familiar to the costa mesa mayor who joins me now. they moved in next to the city manager and they unleash a flurry of construction making all kinds of racket and bullying him at home. does this shock you are similar to something you went through as well? >> five years ago it would shock me. what you find out is these unions in a lot of public safety unions have used strong-arm t
debt limit debate but it shows deficit reduction measures have increased and are about as standard in washington as a cherry blossom festival. i'm sure that you agree that? >> absolutely. i agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. that is why we need to have this discussion now. it is all the more appropriate for the president to be telling us we can't make any demands accompanying his request for yet another debt ceiling height. gerri: how did you react to the presence tone in that last press conference when he talked about his upcoming debt ceiling despite? he seemed a little angrier you guys. >> yes, he did. he seemed annoyed at the fact that he had to deal with a coequal branch of government. a group of pesky individuals elected by the people. >> yes, that's right. we have the audacity to insist that we follow the law and that we continue to make the law and yes, we have our work cut out for us. >> i was noticing that since 1990, we have raised the debt ceiling 18 times. back in 1990 come the first time we raised it, the debt ceiling was $3.12 trillion. the debt ceiling is ra
deficit reduction plan. understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our budget deficits, and also to deal with our trade deficits, and create an enviro
. >> and the always colorful senator alan simpson is with us, no bigger advocate of getting america's debt and deficit under control, but does he think the debt ceiling is the leverage that republicans should use to get that done? he'll join us exclusively, and i know you're going to ask him about that. >> absolutely. >> let's check out the action on the street right here. here's how things are shaping up with less than an hour to go. the dow jones industrial average hitting basically at the highs of the day. had been down around 60 points earlier. talking about a gain of 20 points on the blue chip average. fractional move at 13,527. nasdaq chart pattern looks similar. take a look though it's negative. down about nine points on the nasdaq, a quarter points lower and the s&p 500 looks like this. similar chart pattern as the dow up a fraction on the standard & poor's but still that's the high of the afternoon. let's get more on the markets in today's "closing bell" exchange by hank smith and steve from comcast funds and our own rick santelli. >> hello. >> good to see you guys. >> thank you so much for j
and talk about the deficit reduction plan. other things they had done a little bit together. it's harder for president obama to do that because there's been so much polarization. >> polarization has been on both sides. it would be a good step for the president, i actually don't expect him to take it. to try to put that behind, to have at least a rhetorical frame for being more enveloping. obviously in the last few days, last week or so, he hasn't taken that tact. he's, he had his press conference about a week ago. he's had some, they've floated some stories about how they're going to have a more confrontational stand. and that seems to be the direction they're planning to take. nevertheless, at least if i were in their position, i would be saying, you need to rhetorically try to put that behind the country. if the opposition then doesn't take, reach out and pick up the mantle that you've offered to them, that's their problem. >> does the president have to refer to the bitterly divided country and congress? i mean you saw those poll numbers, they really reflect i think how not just people
form deliberate of an overhang lie the u.s. there is an issue with respect to fiscal deficit. where we saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidanc
. germany's problem is the reverse. it's been running a huge surplus which is the deficit of the other countries of europe that they cannot finance. >> correct. >> that is the essence of the european crisis. >> but in a global environment -- >> the whole question with respect to the u.s. is whether we can sustain our current account relationship with the rest of the world. and particularly with china. and that's a decision that the rest of the world will make. it's completely -- >> james, are we -- we added a new entitlement, obama care, which some, i don't know what that's going to cost. there's some groups, i guess they would call them, if they're too conservative, but trillions and trillions of dollars of additional entitlements that we've just layered over the entitlements we already have. are we at the right level now? is this the perfect level of promises we've made? or would you even go above where we are right now? >> well, i think the problem that we have is that our health care sector is bloated by this enormous private insurance system that we have. this sort of mixed bag of
remains committed to further reducing the deficit in a balanced way. so that is the response from the white house after the gop at its retreat in virginia came out with the possibility that perhaps we could extend the debt limit for another three months but the senate has to pass a budget, so the republicans which it has not done in four years. so. tracy: no surprise from the white us house. ashley: says no. tracy: okay, then. how about this. hank paulson says he hates the debt limit. you remember the former treasury secretary, the guy who said i need $700 billion right now? no wonder he hates it. ashley: don't we all. tracy: he has given a rare interview. we have details on that next. ashley: first a look at today's winners and losers. the dow just above the water mark. take a look. we'll be right back. ♪ chances are you've become, a better driver over the years. and one company thinks your auto insurance rates should get better too. presenting the aarp auto insurance program from the hartford. i'm a good driver. have been for years. it just makes sense that better, more experi
mean they are very concerned about the debt to gdp and the budget deficit, which are running at roughly 101% and 8 to 10%. we kind of look like spain looks right now. if anything we might be worse. but what i think happens is the republicans have two shots. march 1st is the sequester where they can challenge or what we think will happen they will wait until the march 27th continuing resolution and they are going to press the president for spending reductions which is absolutely necessary if we want to maintain at least two of our three aaa credit ratings. >> andy, i just find it amazing we now have a culture where it doesn't matter what you said a couple of years ago, even when you're the head guy running the country. we all know, raid or heard and today was the notable quotable in the "journal" when the president was a senator was a different guy when it comes to his interpretation of voting or not voting for the debt ceiling. but i happened in my opinion agree with you on your interpretation of the republicans and the retreat. i think that principle might be a good thing. centerpiece
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